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New threadA lot of Solarpunk focuses on imagining the future solar utopia, and neglects the DIY punk action required to build it.
With that in mind, how do we fight technocapital?
What punk things have you done IRL?
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> Has anyone had any success changing people's minds and getting them unplugged from the propaganda mainline?
I don't know any magic bullet, but I think I have had an influence on those around me. Keep talking to friends, loved ones, relatives and neighbors, and eventually you'll have some influence.
You can't push a message all the time else they'll just think you're boring and weird, you have to maintain a genuine relationship and occasionally mention the politics/history/philosophy.
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> Wouldn't it make sense to try and become someone with actual power and care? That seems to be what Elon Musk is doing, if you believe he cares about anything or not, I certainly see more electric cars on the road because of him.
Fighting a system by becoming part of it doesn't seem very effective. I thought about doing this at one point but realized that trying to gain power and wealth in this system that is antithetical to solarpunk ideals will necessarily be self-defeating and either lead to the abandonment of these ideals, or lead to a green coat of paint over the current system without any genuine change. That's at least what those in power adopting the aesthetic are trying to do anyways: greenwash cities by adding random trees. This system will defang movements that hope to step outside of it and then absorb the trivialized remains of movements against it, if given the chance through institutionalization.
I'm not sure what the solution is, but I have a good idea of what we want it to look like. This is a new movement so we're still figuring out a lot of this stuff. As we figure out our vision more and clarify it we can spread it through culture and hopefully one day subvert the system. I know that guerilla gardening and other methods of showing people the value of solarpunk so they can adopt it (instead of making it a politicized issue for people to contest) will be stepping stones in the process. It's an up-hill battle, much like right to repair, much like the civil rights movement. But like them, people will realize the value of these ideas with time and the best we can do is figure out what those ideas are, how to spread them effectively, and how to get people to see why they're worth having. It's like being a libertarian in a fascist regime, you're gonna face a lot of pushback from people who have been misled and who benefit from things being as they are, but you'll win given enough time and momentum.
Later this year I'm giving the surplus of my food garden away to the community for free, making some community repair spaces too. The hope is people will realize not everything has to be about money, that not everything has to be so replacable, the joy of customization and repair, and the abundance of food on God's green earth.
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> Mmm, I see what you mean. Perhaps a better sentiment would be to become "some people" with power, rather than "some person" with power. I dont think limiting your search for allies to just where you live makes sense. However paying attention to where you live is surely some kind of solarpunk virtue.
Building networks and connections is tricky. We're essentially bulding parallel societies from scratch. That takes time, people, resources, and lots of effort to get off the ground. Once it's in the air though, it gains momentum on its own. This atomized world we live in has made us forget how to mostly, but we're well on our way to getting there. Solarchan and the growing number of people in solarpunk is a strong indicator we're headed in that direction as a grass-roots (heh) movement.
I wish you the best in fostering some networks of your own treenonymous!
Solarchan is an imageboard loosely themed around the ideas of solarpunk. It is a place to share your ideas, show off your projects and joke around on the internet.
Solarpunk is optimistic, earnest and empathetic. We like to joke, but we don't bully. we give and accept arguments or criticism in good faith. We want to make the world a better place for everyone who lives on it. Posts which go against this spirit might receive a warning, or even be removed.
I hope we can build something beautiful with the connections we make here. <3
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Greetings from Lainchan!
Refreshing to see a forum that doesn't require JS. A dying breed sadly.
While I can see which thread I'm replying to with the URL I think it would be nice to put the title (with link) somewhere above the reply box.
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> While I can see which thread I'm replying to with the URL I think it would be nice to put the title (with link) somewhere above the reply box.
Noted, I'll try to get around to it!
Happy Birthday Solarchan!
I don't think anywhere could be said to be living harmoniously with nature, but where comes closest?
Some features I think we'd need to consider:
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Barcelona is probably the best I've seen, there seems to be a decent sense of community and the best mass transit I've seen in Western Europe.
I still wonder whether a city can really be the ideal solarpunk environment for living; I think towns of 20.000-50.000 inhabitants are probably best as you can find all of the amenities of a city while maintaining a connection to the surrounding rural food production.
I think that size often creates a better feeling of community too. Obviously not always; some towns that size are culturally dead - especially when they're spread over low-density suburbia. I think with the right urban design and high population densities that size is perfect though.
I think smaller towns are better for the Solarpunk ideal.
At the moment there is little to do in smaller towns, but that's because the huge cities have sucked everything up!
After we all move back into towns and villages, those towns and villages will thrive in a way that they currently don't.
I know about reddit and there's some good stuff there but it's mostly just aesthetics like this pic. I'm more interested in things like lowtechmagazine, considering practical things we can do today.
I'm also looking for communities for the social side of punk; where we can organize, collaborate and exchange ideas not just feelgood videos.
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> Is Gemini worth getting into?
Personally, I really like the format of a text-only internet with no ads.
The problem with Gemini is content discovery. Even when you find a really interesting article, the next post on that capsule might just be about the author's pets.
It seems like Gemini needs its own version of something like Reddit, despite all the problems & centralization that introduces.
>lowtechmagazine
There's nothing low-tech about photovoltaics, and nothing high-tech that is sustainable. Passive solar and biofuels are the way forward. In fact, George Brayton invented an engine capable of burning biomass directly (minimal processing) over 150 years ago. Modern gas turbines operate on the same principle.
The folks at Usufruct Commons are nice and definitely seem like they'd be into solarpunk!
I've just read the homebrewserver manifesto, looked at the stack of unused laptops on my shelf, and I feel inspired!
What do you guys actually do with your home servers though?
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> What i'm doing right now is setting up a Xen virtual machine server to host multiple websites and services in a fairly secure manner
Isn't Xen kinda overkill? You can host multiple sites with an Nginx reverse proxy, unless you're doing some kind of interesting interactivity.
Good luck and have fun anyhow!
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How easy is it to set up Xen?
I looked into it a few times for distro-hopping but it looked a bit overwhelming.
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What do you guys actually do with your home servers though?
The most useful things I've found:
how do you guys feel about the offgrid movement? i think trying to be self sustaining is good, but a lot of off grid people tend to be super conservative religious people for some reason
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> a lot of off grid people tend to be super conservative religious people for some reason
I guess this must be an American phenomenon; here in Europe the back-to-the land types are all (left) anarchists and hippies.
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> But you will likely be sharing the community with non solarpunk wingnuts?
The single most important thing for a community is that it's members get along. If you want to be in a community with like-minded people, you have to seek them out and start your own community.
i haven't been updating myself on these events, what's up with the off-grid movement? can i get some context like what's been going on so far? on top of that are there any sites/forums/communities that discuss such movement like for example https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/? i find these things really fascinating, thinking of getting a solar panel or making a relatively tiny wind turbine and maybe charge my powerbank or some mobile devices
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You can get along with non solarpunk wingnuts?
Do you write poetry?
This is a thread for sharing and constructive criticism.
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over and over, they rotate
blades catching the wind
pockets of air forming on one side
then pulling them toward it
though the wind presses against the front, threatening the motion
the force of the lift is stronger than the drag, this ceaseless push and pull
turning the rotor
over and over — to the pride of
the lone watcher who
had no hand in its construction
made no profit from its completion
for this monument
is as much their creation
as any of the scientists, engineers and construction workers
who came together
and built the future
but under this exposure
a thought, a fear, strange yet familiar
is brought to light
more and more
those who stand here
after they have left
and are long gone
will find these pillars
dulled
by the sculptors of progress
chiseling it down
into a foundation
for what is to come
and in time
what once was a beacon
is now a monument
in a world they were barely able to hold on to
the wrongs that were needed to right the future,
the injustices to those who were unjust
are to be the crimes they will never be punished for
the shame they will never have to bear
for no one will ever know
and in time
no one will even understand
what had to be done
for the future
and though it burned, scalding them
they laughed it off
they laughed it all off
because they knew
a paradise like this
can only be built
by people like them
and so
the blades are pushed on
against the wind
turning
over and over
a new chapter in our history
each a little brighter than the last
A seasonal favorite of mine:
I heard a thousand blended notes,
While in a grove I sate reclined,
In that sweet mood when pleasant thoughts
Bring sad thoughts to the mind.
To her fair works did Nature link
The human soul that through me ran;
And much it grieved my heart to think
What man has made of man.
Through primrose tufts, in that green bower,
The periwinkle trailed its wreaths;
And ’tis my faith that every flower
Enjoys the air it breathes.
The birds around me hopped and played,
Their thoughts I cannot measure:—
But the least motion which they made
It seemed a thrill of pleasure.
The budding twigs spread out their fan,
To catch the breezy air;
And I must think, do all I can,
That there was pleasure there.
If this belief from heaven be sent,
If such be Nature’s holy plan,
Have I not reason to lament
What man has made of man?
From the akathist hymn Glory to God for All Things:
O Lord, how lovely it is to be Thy guest. Breeze full of scents; mountains reaching to the skies; waters like boundless mirrors, reflecting the sun's golden rays and the scudding clouds. All nature murmurs mysteriously, breathing the depth of tenderness. Birds and beasts of the forest bear the imprint of Thy love. Blessed art thou, mother earth, in thy fleeting loveliness, which wakens our yearning for happiness that will last for ever, in the land where, amid beauty that grows not old, the cry rings out: Alleluia!
The breath of Thine Holy Spirit inspires artists, poets and scientists. The power of Thy supreme knowledge makes them prophets and interpreters of Thy laws, who reveal the depths of Thy creative wisdom. Their works speak unwittingly of Thee. How great art Thou in Thy creation! How great art Thou in man!
Glory to Thee, showing Thine unsurpassable power in the laws of the universe
Glory to Thee, for all nature is filled with Thy laws
Glory to Thee for what Thou hast revealed to us in Thy mercy
Glory to Thee for what Thou hast hidden from us in Thy wisdom
Glory to Thee for the inventiveness of the human mind
Glory to Thee for the dignity of man's labour
Glory to Thee for the tongues of fire that bring inspiration
Glory to Thee, O God, from age to age
What sort of praise can I give Thee? I have never heard the song of the Cherubim, a joy reserved for the spirits above. But I know the praises that nature sings to Thee. In winter, I have beheld how silently in the moonlight the whole earth offers Thee prayer, clad in its white mantle of snow, sparkling like diamonds. I have seen how the rising sun rejoices in Thee, how the song of the birds is a chorus of praise to Thee. I have heard the mysterious mutterings of the forests about Thee, and the winds singing Thy praise as they stir the waters. I have understood how the choirs of stars proclaim Thy glory as they move forever in the depths of infinite space. What is my poor worship! All nature obeys Thee, I do not. Yet while I live, I see Thy love, I long to thank Thee, and call upon Thy name.
Glory to Thee, giving us light
Glory to Thee, loving us with love so deep, divine and infinite
Glory to Thee, blessing us with light, and with the host of angels and saints
Glory to Thee, Father all-holy, promising us a share in Thy Kingdom
Glory to Thee, Redeemer Son, who hast shown us the path to salvation!
Glory to Thee, Holy Spirit, life-giving Sun of the world to come
Glory to Thee for all things, Holy and most merciful Trinity
Glory to Thee, O God, from age to age
When did you last get out into nature?
This thread is also for images of natural beauty :)
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Gah, no image uploads!
Any idea of how long until they're back?
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Not yet, we're still getting spammed regularly.
Anyone have suggestions for how to deal with it?
just stfu delete it like every other chan admin
cp botspam hits all open forums
Merry Christmas to Solarpunks everywhere!
Here's to a more equal, just and sustainable 2023 xXx
>Open source this code!
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https://github.com/karai17/lapis-chan
nice board, i appreciate the minimalism
it sounds like you need a better admin panel
you may be able to get a some kind of spam blocklis https://www.stopforumspam.com/ is one i use that works pretty good
the official board http://lapchan.moe is quite comfy also
notice they have a board called http://lapchan.moe/as "anti spam" board
spammers will generally go to the alphabetically first board on a chan
you can probably write a lua script that auto deletes anything posted there
could also implement some kind of basic captcha